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Pierre Jourdan de Cabrières and the other man - How history confused two different men
by Harry Booyens at http://members.shaw.ca /cliffwoodfogge/Pierre.htm: On 20 March 1688 the Dutch East India Ship China set sail from Goeree for the distant Cape of Good Hope with two men on board who happened to have identical names. Both were Pierre Jourdan; both came not only from Provence, but from the same tiny district of Provence - the Luberon. In fact, they came from two villages within walking distance of each other, namely Cabrières d'Aigues and the hamlet of Belle Etoile some 500 yards outside St. Martin de la Brasque. The two men were wholly unrelated going back at least four generations. Once at the Cape, Suzanne, daughter of Pierre de Cabrières, married Jean, son of the brother of Pierre Jourdan de Belle Etoile. However, the histories at the Cape managed to confuse the two immigrants and merged their children under the name of only one man. In reality Pierre de Cabrières lived in the very French Drakenstein district and was a strong Protestant churchman. Pierre de Belle Etoile lived in Cape Town, where his daughter married Mochamat Dayan, the son of the Rajah of Tambora and his wife, the daughter of Sheik Yussuf. Mochamat had converted to Christianty soon before and had been baptised David Sultania.
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In this regard. please see the Discussion and the Jourdan Project about the confusion between the two Pierre Jourdaan SV/PROGs, and hence, whose brother the SV/PROG Jean Jourdaan is. I’ve locked down the fields on all of them to keep them safe from accidental mash ups. Everyone just yell if you want to add new info -the idea is to keep safe not prevent other research work. Sharon June 2014 / June 2016
Pierre Jourdan “Carretier” de Belle Etoile, Provence, France †28.2.1677 x 1646 Jehane Marque *ca 1628, †1688 on the ship China, daughter of David and Marie Grange. Pierre was the son of Barthélemy Jourdan †before 1624 x St. Martin de la Brasque 1601 Jehane Lautier. Pierre had a brother named Pol.
i. Magdalene *ca. 1647, x Daniel Roux.
ii. Marie *ca.1647, x Jean Roux †before 23.10.1685. We conclude Marie and Magdalene were twins
iii. Barthélemy †22.05.1680 x 28.4.1676 Jeanne Brette
iv. Catherine who died young on 2.6.1676
v.Jean Jourdan de Belle Etoile; *Luberon 1660. Arrived at the Cape on the ship China on 4 August 1688.Later owner of the farm “La Motte” in Franschhoek. † Between March 1698 and Jan 1699 x Isabeau Long of La Motte d'Aigues in Provence
vi. Pierre Jourdan de Belle Etoile; *Luberon 1664. Arrived at the Cape on the ship “China” on 4 August1688. Property owner in Table Valley. † Before Dec 1716 x Cape Town 16.10.1701 Johanna Adriana Junius
* b1 Johanna » Cape Town 06.08.1702 x 1718 Adrianus de Nicker; xx Joachim Daniel Hiebner
- b2 Maria » Cape Town 16.11.1704, x 1.2.1722 Johannes Pretorius, son of Dirk Pretorius; xx 3.7.1740 David Sultania *1713 as “Mochamat Dayan” »18.12.1739 as “David”
Sources on Pierre Jourdan (Carretier)'s sons Jean and Pierre
- They appear at Jehane Marque's abjuration above, where their names are given (See her profile).
- They appear with her again in unidentified fashion in Geneva and Schaffhausen (See her profile).
- They are clearly identified by name with her at Frankfort on 31 October 1687 (See her profile).
- They are identified by name as the sons Jean (28) and Pierre (24) of Jeanne "Marthe" (actually Marque), widow of "Jourdan". ◦ SOURCE : Dutch East India Company planned passenger list of 23 December 1687- ex Rotterdam (C Graham Botha pp.140)
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By 24 October 1685 the Intendant of Provence advises Louis XIV's Minister of State, Louvois, that, with the exception of the counties of Seyne, Manosque [on the Durance east of Bastide des Jourdans], and “some villages in the Val d'Aigues”, all of Provence will be Catholic. In terms of the Edict, one has to either convert or leave the country. Those who do not convert are sentenced to forfeit their property and row in the galleys (in the case of men) or be thrown in prison (in the case of women). The children of the converted shall have to be educated in the Catholic religion. We now look at events in the villages themselves. In the week following the revocation of the Edict of Nantes, the individuals with whom we are concerned all abjure their faith...
1. On 22 October 1685 Pierre Jourdan “Cavalier” of Cabrières d'Aigues and his family, including son Pierre Jourdan de Cabrières, abjure their faith in Cabrières d'Aigues in front of Notary Lafourest. It is from this event that we know their respective ages.
2. On 23 October 1685, at La Motte d'Aigues, it is the turn of Marie Jourdanne, daughter of Pierre Jourdan “Carretier” of Belle Etoile and the widow of Jean Roux. With her are her three daughters Jeanne, Marie and Margarite.
3. At the very same event, immediately following Marie on the list, we find Daniel Roux (42), his wife Magdalene Jourdanne (38), the eldest daughter of Pierre Jourdan “Carretier” of Belle Etoile, and their two daughters Jeanne and Marie. Based on the grouping, these two families shared a home by 1685. It appears that Daniel Roux is the brother of the late Jean Roux.
4. At St. Martin de la Brasque, 500 metres from Belle Etoile, we find the abjuration of Jeanne Bret(te), widow of the late Barthèlemy Jourdan, and her two daughters Isabeau and Jeanne between 23 and 27 October 1685.
5. Immediately following that of Jeanne Brette, we find the abjurations of Jeanne Marque, widow of the late Pierre Jourdan “Carretier” and of her youngest sons, Jean and Pierre. Here too, the two families probably all live in the same household. This is no doubt the home in Belle Etoile where the late eldest son of Pierre Senior, Barthèlemy (husband to Jeanne Brette), must have been in command until his death. [Booyens p4-5]
The CHINA sailed from Rotterdam on 20 March 1688 and arrived at Table Bay, South Africa on 4 August 1688. In the China two Pierres Jourdan, both bachelors and both aged 24 years, sailed from Holland and arrived at the Cape ...
[See attached 'Extract uit brief 23 December 1687 van de Kamer van Rotterdam' from Botha, C Graham: The French Refugees at the Cape, 2nd Ed 1921, p 140 - 141]
I want to suggest that Pierre Jourdan, brother of Jean Jourdan, was from Belle Etoile near Saint Martin de la Brasque, as was Jean Jourdan.
The other Pierre Jourdan was from Cabrières d'Aigues, which is why he called his farm 'Cabriere'.
[Cf. Old Stellenbosch Freehold Volume 1:391: Jourdaan, Pierre. Cabriere, Oliphants Hoek (6) 22.12.1694]
This Pierre Jourdan lived in 't Caabse District' and married Johanna Adriana Junius.
[Cf. Monsterrolle and the profile Pierre Jourdan, de Cabrières SV/PROG 3] - by Jansi Syfert, 28/10/2012.
Extract uit brief 23 December 1687 van de Kamer Rotterdam
. . . de volgende mans en vrouw persoonen voorgekomen cm pr t schip China over te varen ...
I Jeanne Marthe wed : van Jourdan out 60 jaren
I Jean Jordan haer zoon out 28 jaren
I Pierre Jourdan idem 24 do
I Marie Jourdan wed. out 40 jaren
I Jeanne Rousse haer dochter out 15 jaren
I Marie Rousse haer dochter out 10 jaren
I Margarete Rousse haer dochter 7 jaren
Sa 7 personen in dese familie
[Botha, C Graham: The French Refugees at the Cape, 2nd Ed 1921]
Distribution List 18 & 19 April 1690
Cape of Good Hope, South Africa
Jacques Malan and Pierre Jourdan, each ..... f115, another Pierre Jourdan with other bachelors, including Louis Barre, each ..... f130
Among Drakenstein families
Drakenstein, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa
Jean JOURDAN ‘with wife,’ and two Pierres JOURDAN are in the Distribution List 1690, and among Drakenstein families 1692—Jean JOURDAN ‘with wife and 1 child,’ Pierre JOURDAN in partnership with Louis BARRE and ‘Pierre JOURDAN of Cabriere.
Monsterrol 1695
't District Drakenstein
p150 'Pieter Jurdan' and p 151 'Pieter Jurdan'
Marriage to Johanna Adriana Junius (b2)
NGK Cape Town
[1701] 16 Octob Pierre Jourdaan met Ariana Junius.
Monsterrol van de vrije luijden opgemaaket 23 Januarij 1702
t Caabse District
p 18 'Pieter Jordan & Johanna Junius'
Death
Monsterrol 1713 de Caab
Pieter Jordaan does not appear. Pieter Jordaan de Cabriere appears under Stellenbosch.
“ Generale Reek’ van den Boedel en Go[edere]n naargelaten en met ’er dood ontruijmt bij Wijlen Pieter Jourdaan ten voordeele van deselfs Twee minderjarige [kind]eren genaamt Johanna en maria Jourdaan.”
- Cape Archives, MOOC 13/1/1, entry 87
See also: Harry Booysens 'Pierre de Cabrières and Pierre de Belle Etoile' in Familia 2012-3 on http://www.eggsa.org/index.htm
Pierre Jourdan, de Belle Etoile SV/PROG 2's Timeline
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